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Re: Contract Market, 1 December, 3057
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2022, 07:38:48 AM »

Doing the maths for polar, it only affects mechs that go 6/9 or faster

Does the .092 effect weapons fire?
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Re: Contract Market, 1 December, 3057
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2022, 07:58:49 AM »

Technically yes, even the 1.02 would as well. Rob did state couple games ago that he would only add penalty for every .2 above or below, assuming he does it again for this one.

Tac ops adds it for every .2 (or fraction there of) and the majority of planets are within that .2 range up and down from 1 according to MHQ.
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Re: Contract Market, 1 December, 3057
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2022, 08:18:56 AM »

Determining Movement Effects: As shown in the following
rules, while low gravity generally allows units to move faster, it
does not reduce their mass and momentum, and so offers a
chance that the unit will suffer damage through normal movement. For example, a ’Mech traveling at 200 kph on a .5-G world
is likely to snap off its legs. Gravity affects all units’ movement in
the same way. To determine a unit’s movement rates as affected
by gravity, divide its Walking (or Cruising) and Jumping MP
by the G-rating of the world and round to the nearest whole
number (round down at .5). Modifiers to movement due to
gravity are always calculated after all other movement modifiers.

Potential Damage From Jumping: Make a Piloting Skill Roll,
applying a modifier for every full 0.5 gravities above or below
1. For example 0.2 gravity would apply a +1 modifier, while a
2.6 would apply a +3 modifier. If the roll fails for low gravity, the
’Mech takes 1 point of internal structure damage to each leg for
each Movement Point spent jumping that exceeds its normal
Jumping MP. On high-gravity worlds, every Jumping MP spent
solely to “cushion” the landing (i.e. not to move hexes) applies
a –1 modifier. If the roll fails for high gravity, the ’Mech takes 1
point of internal structure damage to each leg for every second
Walking MP lost from its normal Walking MP

Weapon Attacks: Add a +1 to-hit modifier to all Missile and
Direct-Fire Ballistic weapon attacks for every .2 G (or fraction
thereof) above or below the Terran standard 1 G.

p.53 of new TO rules (not the weapons one)
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Re: Contract Market, 1 December, 3057
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2022, 10:51:08 AM »

Ok, I looked again at HOMEFRONT and the description of the mission - Relief Duty.

"Relief Duty
When unexpected attacks materialize, relief expeditions must move to support local garrison and defensive forces. Sometimes this is fairly simple, but usually it is the equivalent of mounting a whole new planetary assault. The original attacker often controls the approaches to the world and much of the planetary surface. Moreover, relief duty is chancy because there is no way of predicting whether the original defenders will still be in position and putting up a fight when help reaches them."

This reads like the mission is to reinforce the DEFENSE, and yet the Employer is the FWL with CC being the Attacker.  On Capella.  Capital of the Capella Commonality of the CC.  If this was a Planetary Assault it would make sense.  But as written?  Color me confused. 
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Re: Contract Market, 1 December, 3057
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2022, 11:11:01 AM »

Ok, I looked again at HOMEFRONT and the description of the mission - Relief Duty.

"Relief Duty
When unexpected attacks materialize, relief expeditions must move to support local garrison and defensive forces. Sometimes this is fairly simple, but usually it is the equivalent of mounting a whole new planetary assault. The original attacker often controls the approaches to the world and much of the planetary surface. Moreover, relief duty is chancy because there is no way of predicting whether the original defenders will still be in position and putting up a fight when help reaches them."

This reads like the mission is to reinforce the DEFENSE, and yet the Employer is the FWL with CC being the Attacker.  On Capella.  Capital of the Capella Commonality of the CC.  If this was a Planetary Assault it would make sense.  But as written?  Color me confused.

This would be as if we are moving to reinforce the attack like a planetary assault. Think of combat deployment rotations as forces cycle out. They are using us like a stop gap to hold the ground gained by reinforcing positions they already gained or to try and hold the line in space. We also could be utilized to become basically the new wave 2 of the push. Other probable outcomes on wave 2 is us opening a whole.new front with the employer using the guise of go from point a to d to link up with the exhausted forces on planet. All the while we do the hard work which seems like the probable outcome. Which is part of the reason I hated the idea on the mission but realistically could give us good returns as long as our co doesn't throw himself overconfidently head first into an assault lance or something goofy. I notice these contracts have an ulterior motive for several of them as things play out and consistently are not as they seem.
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Re: Contract Market, 1 December, 3057
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2022, 01:30:21 PM »

Homefront seems to have the advantage at this time. Unless gm wishes to chime in and make it a toss up, I feel the better units will help due to all our pilots also being vet plus the better pay than polar.
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Re: Contract Market, 1 December, 3057
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2022, 01:32:45 PM »

Normally you don't need to worry about the forces on world. That is, there isn't a specific formation tied to the planet, so you don't need to overthink contracts. However, as you guys are Rangers and would know this intrinsically, the world of Capella has come up during the campaign before. You might want to research it.

A relief mission of this nature is fundamentally about reinforcing or rescuing an (FWL) attacking force which has gotten itself into trouble against the (Capellan) defenders. So you'd be going into the situation to rescue a FWL unit, fighting against CapCon-flagged defenders or any onplanet Capellan-hired mercs.
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Re: Contract Market, 1 December, 3057
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2022, 01:36:47 PM »

Let's do homefront then. As much fun as pirate hunting seems, might be better to help build up the unit more.
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Re: Contract Market, 1 December, 3057
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2022, 01:56:59 PM »

Generate and we leave on the 4th since nobody else said anything about factory use in dec
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Re: Contract Market, 1 December, 3057
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2022, 02:21:09 PM »

Ok, so to Rob's GM hint, Capella's come up previously in Operation INVESTITURE as part of the original campaign in which Kato was installed as a noble on Capella.  So Kato's family holdings as Mandarin as well as his grandfather's holdings and Rangers' 1st Regiment are all on Capella.  Rob has confirmed that the Rangers would be deployed to the field without hesitation as part of the OpFor.  Which I guess leaves open the possibility of really good salvage and the opportunity to pick a new unit name.

I had avoided mentioning this previously as I was curious whether anyone would remember. This was also mentioned in the fluff thread I posted to kick off this campaign to provide flavor, especially as this built on the previous campaign.

"Returning to Capella to regroup and rebuild they were offered a lucrative contract by his grandfather for the Rangers to stay and provide garrison and training support.  Other responsibilities to be negotiated separately.  As an elite unit, they’d bolster the existing local forces.  His personal forces as Manadarin were not up to strength or par and his grandfather’s while in better shape could certainly take advantage of it.  The contract also included provisions to serve as an adjunct to the Capellan War College at least for field exercises, with other duties or training to be negotiated separately."

For what it's worth, Rob would and will absolutely still let us move ahead with HOMEFRONT if we choose to test ourselves against our former selves.  I realize not everyone lives in the fluff or the universe background, but as it's shown itself in the past and again here, in universe situations and events can have a direct impact on the game for both good and ill.

From a fluff perspective if desired the unit could send word ahead to the 1st Rangers alerting them to the recruitment of additional forces for the invasion and a potential timeline for arrival.  It might have absolutely no effect on the game whatsoever, but then again it might.

So with all information available, my personal recommendation is POLAR GULF, but I'll absolutely play HOMEFRONT and enjoy it if we go there.
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Re: Contract Market, 1 December, 3057
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2022, 02:25:06 PM »

Forgetting about that tidbit as well, might be best to stay away for a time. Lets go ahead and kick things off with Polar Gulf, leaving on the 4th.

Forgot about the full consideration of the effect of being on Capella would bring.
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Re: Contract Market, 1 December, 3057
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2022, 02:35:13 PM »

Yeah forgot thats where our contract had us at. For some reason thought we were on another capellan world. We wouldn't even attempt to take that contract with our base founding unit being opfor on the planet. We would bolster the defense not add to the attack in that case. Especially if the unit is under contract we would I believe be breaching the contract unless it was specifically only the 1st batt. I would assume we would have a non compete/combat clause for actions that put us directly in combat against our own unit. Pirate hunting it is. SLDF solo missions anyone?
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Re: Contract Market, 1 December, 3057
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2022, 03:15:26 PM »

Polar Gulf is the one we need. I agree with Hat that our current commander would send a message to the old unit giving a heads up about a contract out by the FWL trying to reinforce for their attack.
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Re: Contract Market, 1 December, 3057
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2022, 03:34:37 PM »

Hold off on 4th, Jazz wants to do something to phawk real quick.
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Re: Contract Market, 1 December, 3057
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2022, 03:51:37 PM »

If you haven't generated. Make it the 30th case those busy with irl have things to do
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