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Re: Tukayyid wish list - what's in your salvage?
« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2020, 10:05:13 AM »

Ideal salvage for me would be an Exterminator [preferably nul-sig or royal] or a royal Phoenix Hawk.

that would be mine as well to be honest as far as the exterminator goes

im going to actually have to kill my ostsol somehow to make it work but hell if it does die and get that as a replacement thats about as good an upgrade as could hope for

I've added your preferences, and I understand about space for the replacement.  Right now I'm expecting at least half my lance not to survive the encounter as our Mech casualty rates should probably be 40%+ given this is Tukayyid and Mission 1 came in well below that.  In the unlikely scenario that everything survives I'll just have to have Rob determine how he wants to handle it in terms of donating a Mech to the Unit or whether I can sell one in some way.
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Re: Tukayyid wish list - what's in your salvage?
« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2020, 12:27:24 PM »

Besides my Archer, who else lost mechs during the 1st mission?
Also, that was my second mixed tech mech I have lost thus far. Makes me sad to think about.
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Re: Tukayyid wish list - what's in your salvage?
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2020, 02:04:02 PM »

Besides my Archer, who else lost mechs during the 1st mission?
Also, that was my second mixed tech mech I have lost thus far. Makes me sad to think about.

As far as I can tell, Ryan lost his Ostsol and the entire left half of Panther #1, the damage to the Panther not being able to be repaired yet.  There's no AAR report, so I'm not sure what happened with Reaper's lance.  Freya and Skaraborg both checked in, Freya with minimal damage and Skaraborg with significant damage, but no losses.

So, if you lost one and Ryan lost one (2/15) that's 13% losses with no pilot deaths which is significantly above the curve.  Comstar had 40% fatalities and many more injured.  I would expect equipment loss to be at least commensurate to the fatality rate, figure 5 mechs lost out of every L2, basically 3x the rate we did.  An advantage for the Rangers is that we have experienced pilots and most of the Comguard forces were considered Green.
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Re: Tukayyid wish list - what's in your salvage?
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2020, 02:14:58 PM »

Ideal salvage for me would be an Exterminator [preferably nul-sig or royal] or a royal Phoenix Hawk.

that would be mine as well to be honest as far as the exterminator goes

im going to actually have to kill my ostsol somehow to make it work but hell if it does die and get that as a replacement thats about as good an upgrade as could hope for

I dont plan on hiding thats for sure. Time to throw them to the grinder for the objective. If ever a time to do it that would be now.

I've added your preferences, and I understand about space for the replacement.  Right now I'm expecting at least half my lance not to survive the encounter as our Mech casualty rates should probably be 40%+ given this is Tukayyid and Mission 1 came in well below that.  In the unlikely scenario that everything survives I'll just have to have Rob determine how he wants to handle it in terms of donating a Mech to the Unit or whether I can sell one in some way.
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Re: Tukayyid wish list - what's in your salvage?
« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2020, 02:56:59 PM »

<snip>I dont plan on hiding thats for sure. Time to throw them to the grinder for the objective. If ever a time to do it that would be now.
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Agreed.  Here's what I'm throwing at the encounter:

WHM-6Rx Warhammer
TDR-7Mx2 Thunderbolt
SHD-2Hb-X Shadow Hawk
PNT-9RPx Panther

Guessing at losing 2 pilots, I'm going with the T-Bolt and Panther pilots and potentially all equipment, that leaves me with:

OWR-2Mbx Ostwar
PXH-HK2-X1 Phoenix Hawk LAM
WLF-2x Wolfhound
BLR-3M Battlemaster

And 5 pilots, my C.O. being one of them.  The first 3 still form a decent scout/skirmish lance, the Battlemaster being the exception.  I've been planning on selling it, though if I lose everything we'll see.  If I had to pick 1 Mech as most likely to survive, it's probably the Shad.  Time will tell.
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Re: Tukayyid wish list - what's in your salvage?
« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2020, 03:44:07 PM »

Besides my Archer, who else lost mechs during the 1st mission?
Also, that was my second mixed tech mech I have lost thus far. Makes me sad to think about.

As far as I can tell, Ryan lost his Ostsol and the entire left half of Panther #1, the damage to the Panther not being able to be repaired yet.  There's no AAR report, so I'm not sure what happened with Reaper's lance.  Freya and Skaraborg both checked in, Freya with minimal damage and Skaraborg with significant damage, but no losses.

So, if you lost one and Ryan lost one (2/15) that's 13% losses with no pilot deaths which is significantly above the curve.  Comstar had 40% fatalities and many more injured.  I would expect equipment loss to be at least commensurate to the fatality rate, figure 5 mechs lost out of every L2, basically 3x the rate we did.  An advantage for the Rangers is that we have experienced pilots and most of the Comguard forces were considered Green.
Injuries. Having one pilot take two bins to the face with Hitzig taking a stray friendly arty, I really am not getting lucky with my current lance leader at the moment. Pretty sure I messed up on my other pilot though since a second bin was hit from a crit chance of the first bin.

Also would auto eject apply with CASE stopping the extra damage to CT?
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Re: Tukayyid wish list - what's in your salvage?
« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2020, 07:45:34 PM »



As far as I can tell, Ryan lost his Ostsol and the entire left half of Panther #1, the damage to the Panther not being able to be repaired yet.  There's no AAR report, so I'm not sure what happened with Reaper's lance.  Freya and Skaraborg both checked in, Freya with minimal damage and Skaraborg with significant damage, but no losses.

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Reaper was not in the first mission. So no loss or damage. ;D
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Re: Tukayyid wish list - what's in your salvage?
« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2020, 08:12:12 PM »

Reaper was not in the first mission. So no loss or damage. ;D

Wow.  What an oversight on my part. *checks notes* I guess that means I'll put you in... Mission 3, the finale!  All the best stuff blows up in the finale!  And I'm going to make you wait.  Build your anticipation.  I'll come up with something.  An earthquake.  No, so San Francisco.  A Hurricane!  No, so Miami.  They'd just be like, "That's nothing.  Hold my beer."  I know.  PANDEMIC!  Can you feel the anticipation building?  ;)
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Re: Tukayyid wish list - what's in your salvage?
« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2020, 10:41:15 PM »

The instant an ammo bin pops, regardless of CASE you're punching out

Of the three Awesomes Skaraborg bought to op1

Berthe got scraped up a bit but more importantly used 4 tons of ammo.  After a reload it's good to go, terrain dependant.  Any extra tech time I have will be used to repair this machine.

Oduyas Awesome did what it was supposed to do and eat bullets.  It's stock so easier to repair, but it's a lot of armor loss.

Kronwalls Awesome is probably out for the time being due to repair times.  I'll likely move my flag to the Highlander for now.

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Re: Tukayyid wish list - what's in your salvage?
« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2020, 05:33:37 PM »

If we are talking about command mechs, why not get a cyclops since it has battle computer. I can see why the exterminator is nice, being a fast mech and all, but we would get more with a cyclops in tow.

They do have 11-A about this time with a potential for a DC variant as well.
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Re: Tukayyid wish list - what's in your salvage?
« Reply #40 on: November 19, 2020, 10:09:51 PM »

If we are talking about command mechs, why not get a cyclops since it has battle computer. I can see why the exterminator is nice, being a fast mech and all, but we would get more with a cyclops in tow.

They do have 11-A about this time with a potential for a DC variant as well.

The Cyclops does indeed have a Battle Computer to give a +2 to initiative if the person driving it is the mission CO.  The 3 highest ranked lance commanders are Midnight, Dancer and Wolverine, all of which are geared towards faster mechs as part of their preferred lance roles.  Wolverine when present leads Bravo (Fight), with Midnight and Dancer in Alpha (Scout).  Skaraborg is the company commander over Charlie (Defend) and I wish you luck in getting him to swap out an Awesome or the Turkina for a Cyclops.  :)  Crusher is currently the company commander for Bravo until Wolverine returns, so that has some possibilities and not too far off Crusher's standard movement profile.

While less mechanically optimal, a Command Console provides the same bonus.  There are stock versions of Mechs with Command Consoles including:

Battlemaster
Atlas
Orion
Awesome
Cyclops
Marauder
Zeus
Thug (impressively nasty canon variant)
Grand Dragon

As for the Exterminator preference, two of the three lances that have expressed an interest are both in Alpha Company, so speed and maneuverability are important given it's role.  Bravo is supposed to be the next most mobile and so some of it is personal preference.  There's also the sheer imposing factor of stealth equipped heavy headhunters on the battlefield, especially in 3052.  Now, keeping it running and out of most opponents crosshairs might be a different matter.
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Re: Tukayyid wish list - what's in your salvage?
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2020, 01:02:32 AM »

The Awesome with a command console is itself a custom ride with a canon sheet so....ehhh, padd

Yeah good luck getting me into a Cyclops of this era.  It's simply not sturdy enough to be a viable tactical unit for us.  Come talk to me in 71 or so.
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Re: Tukayyid wish list - what's in your salvage?
« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2020, 07:35:39 PM »

Reaper was not in the first mission. So no loss or damage. ;D

Wow.  What an oversight on my part. *checks notes* I guess that means I'll put you in... Mission 3, the finale!  All the best stuff blows up in the finale!  And I'm going to make you wait.  Build your anticipation.  I'll come up with something.  An earthquake.  No, so San Francisco.  A Hurricane!  No, so Miami.  They'd just be like, "That's nothing.  Hold my beer."  I know.  PANDEMIC!  Can you feel the anticipation building?  ;)

I'm so excited and can't wait! (^_^)b

Another thing to possibly consider. Since Wolverine Lance doesn't have Saturday classes anymore maybe his lance can show up as one of the Comstar lances we are working with. ;)
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Re: Tukayyid wish list - what's in your salvage?
« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2020, 08:07:53 PM »

That would make one of the missions better off. I feel good about that. Do not have to potentially spend xp at this time and can kinda sandbag until I can get my lance up with everyone else.
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Re: Tukayyid wish list - what's in your salvage?
« Reply #44 on: November 20, 2020, 08:14:56 PM »

Ad Hoc, I'm certainly open to it.  Right now I figure we'll wait until people are ready to start things back up and then figure out how best to proceed.  Given that the units have already been generated for Mission 2, that would have him in Mission 3 though could certainly be on the Comstar side.  At a guess we won't start back up until Summer/Fall '21, but we'll see what's happening with the pandemic here in another 4 to 6 months.
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