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Darrian Wolffe

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1 August 3046 Contract Market
« on: July 28, 2018, 12:49:19 PM »









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Re: 1 August 3046 Contract Market
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2018, 01:03:44 PM »

thoughts?

dao would be primary,

i dont like any of the garrison duty simply because of retirement check possibilities

dao -  salvage is not that bad, house needs renegotiated, possibly good money for transport cost if rng is nice on renegotiating, i do not like the radiation factor and have no idea how that applies and dont know if i want to find out lol, possibly high heat climates but thats not that bad for us more so for the opfor, takes us back out from the center of the IS if we take it and it is an extended contract.

eagle- dont see anything screaming pick me

henouse and crane are same planet- first is recon while other is garrison (notice fedcom reconing and dracs bolstering defense someone got some intel)

henouse -  house and transport terms would want to be renegotiated if were lucky transport cost will be better, most likely decent gear but that gear comes with elite enemies- leary about doing this one although we get veteran allies

crane- if it wasnt for garrison things messing with retirement checks as well as renegotiating house and transport terms, i would say this one is a risky option but might be worth it,  salvage is great, blc is great, elite allies verse veteran opponents although it is fedcom which is kind of against my background so i cant say go for it as nice as it is otherwise not to mention the b tech for them is like a else where

shatter is kind of meh c tech is not exactly screaming choose me
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Re: 1 August 3046 Contract Market
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2018, 01:13:17 PM »

DAO: Planetary Assault - Out in the periphery beating up on the Taurian Concordat - Not a terrible contract, especially if we can increase the transport percentage. I don't find myself particularly interested in A rated TC units, but they would still be money when sold. Decent pay - Rating - OK

EAGLE FLIGHT: Cadre Duty - A mediocre contract, it is nearby, so transport won't make us any real money and it is a 12 month long contract of cadre duty. The world is unremarkable and I wonder if rebels would try to kill us in our beds, guerrilla style. I can't help but be underwhelmed by a D rated rebel force's likely salvage - Rating - Meh

HENOUSE and BLAZING CRANE are mirror contracts

HENOUSE: Recon Raid - Short contract duration with likely recon missions against light forces culminating in a heavy/assault fight. Would be an interesting change of pace. Rating - OK

Recon Raid: Short mission, lots and lots of movement-based scenarios against lighter opposition. Fighting scenarios are few (if any), but when they happen they’re against Heavy and Assault units.

BLAZING CRANE: Garrison Duty - Elite allies with veteran opponents. Long contract, 1.5 years, will force retirement checks. Pay is lower, but damage should be as well. High BLC and Salvage against FC B rated forces should let us make out well. Athenry is basically just a tourist world at this time. Rating - OK

Garrison: Long mission. Sit and wait to be attacked. Much higher chances of being defender in scenarios. Sometimes forces retirement checks halfway through the mission.

SHATTERSTAR: Garrison Duty - Pretty much a worse version of BLAZING CRANE in almost every way but role play. If our Davion PCs are willing to fight against the FC (probably Steiner mercs), BLAZING CRANE is better in every way expect pilot skill of enemies. Rating - meh.
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Re: 1 August 3046 Contract Market
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2018, 01:17:06 PM »

I am thinking HENOUSE if we can renegotiate the transport percentage higher (it needs to be >=35% to break even) then use spare rolls to adjust command then BLC. Otherwise, BLAZING CRANE or DAO.
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Re: 1 August 3046 Contract Market
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2018, 01:20:59 PM »

How about we just reroll each of them now and see what happens.
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Re: 1 August 3046 Contract Market
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2018, 01:23:26 PM »

How about we just reroll each of them now and see what happens.
Too much of a time sink on Rob's end.
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Re: 1 August 3046 Contract Market
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2018, 01:39:32 PM »

We have already agreed to pick a mission this month. Although our choices, for the most part, seem better already. Personally down for Blazing Crane, but secondary would be Dao.
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Re: 1 August 3046 Contract Market
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2018, 01:43:15 PM »

We have already agreed to pick a mission this month. Although our choices, for the most part, seem better already. Personally down for Blazing Crane, but secondary would be Dao.
Just to confirm, you did look at the monthly pay, right? If you haven't it may change your mind. Monthly lance payouts will be that monthly amount divided by 16 (11 lances and 5 shares to the unit).
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Re: 1 August 3046 Contract Market
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2018, 01:44:57 PM »

Good call. I see why you chose Henouse now. Would cover for the lack of salvage. Henouse it is. Then Dao.
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Re: 1 August 3046 Contract Market
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2018, 01:45:46 PM »

i am saying dao

henouse would be secondary


henouse it is seems its going that way anyway.. it is a short contract with good gear to be expected even with 40% value, it will bring us back into middle of IS as well as a jump or so away from a factory world if i remember right. if we can get better command rights and transport terms it would be better

As far as crane goes my rp would consist of me saying no although i am liking some of the options but not the monthly pay

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Re: 1 August 3046 Contract Market
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2018, 01:52:08 PM »

Henhouse is by far my first choice, Dao would be second.
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Re: 1 August 3046 Contract Market
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2018, 02:00:22 PM »

How about we just reroll each of them now and see what happens.

To expound on what Jon said so it doesn't sound quite so black & white:

The limitations of the forum (as they apply to "speed of communication") mean that I really don't want to take a week+ to resolve things while you folks reroll every possibility for every contract.  It will keep everyone in limbo too long, and it will frustrate the hell out of everyone, but particularly me.

Therefore, what we're doing is "you guys choose one contract to pursue", and we do the rerolls for THAT contract.  If and only if the rerolls make the contract into something really obviously a loser (ie, "go from 75% Transport/50% salvage/50% BLC down to 35% Transport/40% salvage/10% BLC"), then we'll allow for a second contract attempt.  But that's going to be it; no more.  

There's a ton of ways for this to make sense, in-universe.  The most obvious is simply the limitations of your legal team; unlike employers, ya'll aren't keeping around 500 contract lawyers per planet, each of whom bill 50,000 CB/hour.  Choose whatever justification you like, but we aren't doing rerolls on every contract, for the above-mentioned out-of-character logistics rationale.

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My thoughts:

DAO: It's a fine contract; I just don't like the location.  The TC is a *long* way away, and we were trying to get back towards the center of the IS.  It also means that the *next* contract we take after this one is almost certainly going to result in a huge amount of travel time.  And while New Ganymede has a little water, germanium deposits, and the Taurian Desert Warfare Training Facility...it's an utter shithole of a planet, and I don't want to deal with a) the heat, b) Taurians, and c) enough radiation that it canonically messes up Mechs.  Thanks, SLDF, for bombarding the planet for 3 months and putting so many rads into the atmosphere that it's STILL a problem.  http://www.sarna.net/wiki/New_Ganymede

EAGLE FLIGHT: It's a crappy contract.  It's nice that it's nearby, but that means that the 100% Transport rating really isn't doing much for us.  However, it's a *safe* choice, most likely.  Rebels generally mean FWL dissidents, so we'd be looking mostly at FWL-branded salvage.

SHATTERSTAR: Eh.  Unlike others, I'm not pathologically disinclined to take long contracts, though I'd prefer taking them on planets which help us via factories and so forth.  Wrentham doesn't do that.  The actual terms of the contract are actually quite solid, and Wrentham is up near the Terran corridor, so it puts us in a good position to take follow-up contracts.  C-rated CapCon salvage isn't encouraging, though.

HENHOUSE/BLAZING CRANE: so, both of these are solid contracts.  HENOUSE is a shorter contract with worse terms (note that the salvage can't be negotiated), while BLAZING CRANE has really good base terms, but requires a longer commitment.  I'd personally prefer BLAZING CRANE, because the base terms are that good, and frankly, we already know that we're likely to see action (given the existence of HENHOUSE), so one of the major garrison contract concerns isn't really a problem this time.  However, either of these contracts can be a winner; HENHOUSE is so short we can move on quickly even if it's a crappy experience.  Oh, and again, Athenry is centrally-placed in the IS.
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Re: 1 August 3046 Contract Market
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2018, 02:03:42 PM »

Oh, as an addendum to the BLAZING CRANE/HENHOUSE discussion...do remember that Drac salvage is going to be, statistically, 40% Panthers and Dragons/Grand Dragons.  The downside of working for the FedCom is that they're the ones with the best toys, and so we're picking up lesser salvage, by definition, by working for them.
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Re: 1 August 3046 Contract Market
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2018, 02:06:08 PM »

Oh, as an addendum to the BLAZING CRANE/HENHOUSE discussion...do remember that Drac salvage is going to be, statistically, 40% Panthers and Dragons/Grand Dragons.  The downside of working for the FedCom is that they're the ones with the best toys, and so we're picking up lesser salvage, by definition, by working for them.

agreed its strictly rp decision as to why i say no

if not i would be heavily contemplating that or henouse
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Re: 1 August 3046 Contract Market
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2018, 02:08:34 PM »

Oh, as an addendum to the BLAZING CRANE/HENHOUSE discussion...do remember that Drac salvage is going to be, statistically, 40% Panthers and Dragons/Grand Dragons.  The downside of working for the FedCom is that they're the ones with the best toys, and so we're picking up lesser salvage, by definition, by working for them.
They sell just like any other mech.
Let's reroll for HENOUSE transport terms.
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