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Re: Force Creation Discussion
« Reply #75 on: August 05, 2013, 01:20:42 PM »

It sounds like Dan is not going to be choosing any units due to being extremely busy right now.  This means we all get to choose four battlemechs.  I'm going with an Avatar G, Warhammer WHM-8D, Blackjack Omni D, and Centurion Omni A.
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Re: Force Creation Discussion
« Reply #76 on: August 06, 2013, 07:46:31 PM »

Clarification request:  are we each selecting mechs to be used together as a lance, ior are we just selecting 4 Mechs and we'll figure out lances after everyone has selected?
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Re: Force Creation Discussion
« Reply #77 on: August 06, 2013, 08:03:22 PM »

Clarification request:  are we each selecting mechs to be used together as a lance, ior are we just selecting 4 Mechs and we'll figure out lances after everyone has selected?

I have no real preference on this issue.  What do you want to do?
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Re: Force Creation Discussion
« Reply #78 on: August 06, 2013, 08:17:56 PM »

To be honest, I'm unsure.  Picking entire lances runs the risk of us overloading on specialized lances, or too many heavy/assault Mechs as everybody picks stuff they personally prefer (which ends to avoid the lighter stuff or "kitchen sink" designs).  But picking individually means we're probably going to end up giving up the ability to make something like a C3 mech lance.

I think I'd prefer everyone pick Mechs individually and we sort them at the end as best as we can...and then have a re-pick or two if necessary ("hey, we've got 4 really good LRM boats that we've shoved together...how about we swap out one for a close-range bodyguard for the lance?").  Plus that way it ends up more as a "here's what you've got - make it work" sort of force, rather than one cherry-picked to fight the way we all agree we want to fight.  It's more true to the universe that way.
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Re: Force Creation Discussion
« Reply #79 on: August 06, 2013, 09:29:39 PM »

To be honest, I'm unsure.  Picking entire lances runs the risk of us overloading on specialized lances, or too many heavy/assault Mechs as everybody picks stuff they personally prefer (which ends to avoid the lighter stuff or "kitchen sink" designs).  But picking individually means we're probably going to end up giving up the ability to make something like a C3 mech lance.

I think I'd prefer everyone pick Mechs individually and we sort them at the end as best as we can...and then have a re-pick or two if necessary ("hey, we've got 4 really good LRM boats that we've shoved together...how about we swap out one for a close-range bodyguard for the lance?").  Plus that way it ends up more as a "here's what you've got - make it work" sort of force, rather than one cherry-picked to fight the way we all agree we want to fight.  It's more true to the universe that way.

That works for me.  However, this does mean we have about a week to choose mechs, assign mechs to lances, and decide who's going to buy what at GenCon, so if this is the option we go with, then we need to get cracking.

Bryan, Mike, and Steve; do any of you have any opinion on how we go about mech selection?
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Re: Force Creation Discussion
« Reply #80 on: August 06, 2013, 09:58:38 PM »

Everyone picking four and matching later is ok by me.

For my part here is 4...
Axman-3Sr (C3S & RAC5, LTXL)
Shadow Hawk 5D (RAC5, no XL)
Griffin-6S (ERPPC & LRM15+Art, LTXL)
Firestarter-FS9-S3 (no XL)
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Re: Force Creation Discussion
« Reply #81 on: August 06, 2013, 11:47:37 PM »

My Mech choices (holy cow are most of the cool new Dark Age-era mechs knocked out by the BV restriction):


HSN-10SR Hellspawn 
(6/9/8 XLFE, 7.5t LFF armor, 10DHS, x2LPPC, x2 ISERML, ECM, TAG, Beagle)  BV: 1,411
IWM: AR20-989

FEC-1CM Fennec
(6/9/0 XLFE, 9.5t FF armor, 10 DHS, x2 PPC, x2 ISMPL, C3 Master) BV: 1,395
IWM:  20-5052

TNS-4T Thanatos
(4/6/4 XLFE, 13t std armor, 12 DHS, x1 LB20X, x1 MRM-20, x2 ISMPL, ECM, C3 slave) BV: 1,760
IWM: 20-971

MAD-5T Marauder
(4/6/0 XLFE, 14t std armor, 14 DHS, x2 ISLPL, x2 ISMPL, RAC/5, Tcomp) BV: 1,750
IWM:  20-264
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Re: Force Creation Discussion
« Reply #82 on: August 06, 2013, 11:58:16 PM »

My Mech choices (holy cow are most of the cool new Dark Age-era mechs knocked out by the BV restriction):

I think the Gunsmith or Scarecrow could be fun and the Hound is a pretty fluff appropriate choice for us, however I lack the skill to kitbash a mini together for any of these, so I didn't select them.
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Re: Force Creation Discussion
« Reply #83 on: August 07, 2013, 12:06:40 AM »

Between the somewhat high rate of turnover/upgrading that I'm expecting and the fact a lot of minis don't exist yet, I wouldn't worry about having the exact mini.  Proxies will definitely be a thing for this, so if you want to play it go for it.  It also means that GenCon is somewhat softer of a target date than it was when I started sorting all this out.
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Re: Force Creation Discussion
« Reply #84 on: August 07, 2013, 12:07:51 AM »

Nice choice with the hellspawn Rob, as that was also on my list.  so here are my choices

Tarantula 3A

Bushwacker 2S

Thunderbolt 9NR

and Dan wants some variant of the Scarecrow.  I don't have the book for that so just the base model
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Re: Force Creation Discussion
« Reply #85 on: August 07, 2013, 12:19:58 AM »

Well that was fast.  I guess we're just waiting on Bryan then.
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Re: Force Creation Discussion
« Reply #86 on: August 07, 2013, 01:50:28 AM »

Well that was fast.  I guess we're just waiting on Bryan then.

Whelp, I can't sleep and I'm bored, so here's a list of what we've got so far.  Which should make Bryan's life easier once he wakes up and reads it.

On first blush, I suggest we look hard at a second unit with a C3 Master system (Cyclops CP-11-C is really about the only choice), as well as some hard-hitting units.  We've got a ton of close-in beatsticks (MAD, Axman, Tbolt, Thanatos), but not a lot of ranged power projection - and definitely no ranged power projection that is C3-compatible to benefit from all out close-range spotter (though depending on how we set up a C3 net, the JES IIs can benefit...).

Other interesting Mechs are on the Light end of things: the -1LAW Wight (HPPC, heavy armor, and a C3 Slave), the -6W Talon (HPPC, Heavy Ferro, 7/11, and a C3 slave), the Garm which Dan designed, and the AIV Urbie (yes, it's available to us...).   
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Re: Force Creation Discussion
« Reply #87 on: August 07, 2013, 08:36:35 AM »

and the AIV Urbie (yes, it's available to us...).   

I think we already selected our artillery with Schriltrons but Come On GM, its too hilarious to not let us have a few.
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Re: Force Creation Discussion
« Reply #88 on: August 07, 2013, 10:04:14 AM »

Alright, no problem, I'll get this knocked out within the next couple hours.

Btw, I was also completely on board with the idea of picking some units and assembling them into lances afterwards.
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Re: Force Creation Discussion
« Reply #89 on: August 07, 2013, 05:45:41 PM »

The Avatar-OC has a master.  Since we have an Avatar already, do we get all the Omni configs too?
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